Gangland widow Roberta Williams reveals underworld family feud where she calls her called dead husband Carl's family SCUM claims she 'had nothing to do' with them - as she details plans for her 'Mob Wives'-style TV show
Gangland widow Roberta Williams allegedly called her dead ex-husband's family scum and claimed to no longer have anything to do with them.
Williams, who has lived her life in the shadow of dead crime lord Carl Williams, faces a string of charges over allegations she assaulted a television producer she hired to make a reality series about her family.
The sensational claims are contained among three statements Ryan Naumenko made to police after he was allegedly bashed by Williams and her chums in a Collingwood warehouse last year.
Roberta Williams allegedly told a television producer she thought Carl Williams' family was 'scum'
Gangland killer Carl Williams and Roberta Williams in happier times.
Television producer Ryan Naumenko claims Williams and her mates beat him up and threatened to kill him
Naumenko, who is a convicted crook and former jailbird himself, claims Williams expressed her contempt for Carl's family the very first time he met her.
'She mentioned that "so many people say they are related to us, they are just pathetic",' Nuamenko told police on July 11 last year.
Williams allegedly told Naumenko she and her daughter Dhakota - Carl's daughter - had 'nothing to do' with his family.
'She then continued on insulting Carl's family, calling them scum,' Naumenko said.
Carl Williams was bludgeoned to death in April 2010 by prison enforcer Matthew Johnson after reading in a newspaper that his cellmate was a police informer.
Carl had been serving 35 years for ordering the murders of three people and conspiracy to murder a fourth.
Johnson was convicted and sentenced in December 2011 to 32 years in jail.
Naumenko told police Williams had wanted to make a reality program about her life to change people's perception about her.
'We aren't what people think, get to know us before you judge us,' she told Naumenko. 'We are honest hard working people.'
On June 26 last year, Naumenko claimed he attended a dinner with Williams at a steak house in Essendon - just north of Melbourne.
It was there Naumenko first met Williams' partner 'Rob', who he believed to be the convicted killer of a teenage boy.
The three of them spoke briefly about the proposed television series before Rob hit him up for cash.
Matthew Johnson creeps up behind Carl Williams as he reads a story in the newspaper that exposed him as a jailhouse rat. Johnson killed him seconds later
Carl WIlliams was buried in a gold casket in 2010. Roberta Williams allegedly told a television producer she now hates his family
Carl, Dhakota and Roberta Williams in happier times. Dhakota was to be a star in her mum's reality television show
'The General' Matthew Johnson was placed in a unit with Carl Williams despite being known to despise police informers
'Can I borrow $30,000?', he asked Naumenko. 'I've got a guy from Sydney coming down and I want to buy something off him so we can make an earn.'
When asked what it was, Naumenko claimed Rob pointed at his eye.
'I assumed that meant ice,' he told police.
Naumenko refused and a disgusted Rob snubbed him for the remainder of the dinner.
As the days went on, a frustrated Williams allegedly demanded Naumenko find her a network to sell the reality program to.
'She was getting frustrated and wanted something to happen because of the (Lawyer X) royal commission and (Purana taskforce investigator Commander) Stuart Bateson and how she was going to kill him,' Naumenko said.
The producer said Williams was adamant she wanted her reality show to be something like 'Mob Wives crossed with The Kardashians and that she wanted to expose the police corruption in Purana specifically'.
Williams wanted to heavily feature daughter Dhakota to 'bring in a different audience than the people she knew'.
'She wanted to show other people she wasn't the violent and loud mouthed person she was portrayed to be in the Underbelly (tv series),' Naumenko said.
When the meeting was finished, Williams allegedly asked Naumenko for the $30,000 previously requested from Rob.
'I said "no I don't have it and I won't be giving you any money",' Naumenko said.
Williams has been charged with extort and intentionally causing injury, false imprisonment and making threats to kill over her alleged actions at that July 9 meeting last year.
Dhakota Williams was to feature heavily in a proposed 'Mob Wives' show being put together by her mum
Carl WIlliams, Dhakota, hitman Andrew 'Benji' Veniamin and Carl's dad George Williams
Carl Williams as he walks with his father George from court in 2004. Both of them are now dead
She has faced a preliminary hearing at Melbourne Magistrates' Court this week alongside co-accused John James Harrison, Jake Sexton and Hassam Al Zwainy and Daniel De Silva all appeared in court today via videolink.
Naumenko sensed he was in serious trouble the moment he stepped foot inside the Collingwood studio.
He claims De Silva was jubilant as he exclaimed: 'Alright Ryan, you're f**ked. It's all over now.'
Naumenko claimed he was told Williams wanted money and he had failed to cough it up fast enough.
'It's too late now. You're dead,' he was allegedly told.
Naumenko claims he was bashed to within an inch of his life as Williams screeched: 'Kill the c**t, he has no money, we have what we want, he has no use to us anymore.'
Annoyed with how the beating was progressing, Naumenko claimed Williams tried to take matters into her own hands.
Ryan Naumenko has provided a number of statements to police claiming to show the ins and outs of Roberta Williams' efforts to produce a reality show
Police were interviewing Jake Sexton when Roberta Williams began busting up chairs
Police arrest Roberta Williams at her home last year
A television producer claimed Roberta Williams said she wanted to kill police officer Stuart Bateson
'I'm going to kill him now, he is broke, we have no use for him,' she allegedly said.
It was then that Naumenko claims Williams began strangling him with an electrical cord.
She later rifled through his bag and oddly cut up his EB Games rewards card.
Naumenko told police he was lucky to escape the warehouse with his life.
When police caught up with Williams, detectives claimed she was less than co-operative.
Fraud Squad Detective Senior Constable Cameron Burns told the court he was forced to stop his interview with a co-accused after Williams flew off the handle in another interview room next door.
'Why don't you remember me Mark?' she shouted. 'You all killed my husband ... Is that what you want to do to me, kill me too?'
When the detective peeked inside, he saw Williams had busted two chairs and a wet puddle on the carpet.
Williams needed to be forcibly removed and was later deemed by doctors to be unfit to be interviewed.
Williams, who is defended by barrister John Desmond, strongly denies all of the allegations.
'I'm putting to you your entire story is a fabrication ... and that you are a man of no credit, you're a dishonest person. You've been scheming and scamming people for most of your life and you continue to do so.' Mr Desmond said.
The preliminary hearing continues.