Trump warns of Democrats' lax-immigration policies as he brings back The Snake poem for his North Carolina rally crowd and wraps up his third event in five battleground states after earlier events with Ivanka and Hope Hicks
President Donald Trump battled the weather at his second rally in his five-rally swing Sunday, this time fighting the bitter Iowa wind instead of Michigan's snow.
'I'm standing up and this is a hell of a lot of wind,' he told the cheering crowd on Sunday.
'It's lucky you have a president that doesn't need a teleprompter because these things are useless,' he added.
And he got in a hit at rival Joe Biden, saying he wouldn't be able to speak under such circumstances.
'That wind, I don't know about you, but that wind is hitting me hard,' he said.
And then he pointed to daughter Ivanka Trump, who was there watching the rally. 'My poor daughter is standing there freezing,' he said. It was 37 degrees in Dubuque.
'Sleepy Joe would be lost,' he said using the moniker he's given Biden. Both candidates use teleprompters in their speeches but Trump often goes off script while Biden does not. Trump also makes fun of Biden's mental abilities, including showing videos at his rallies of Biden stuttering.
The president called Ivanka Trump, his former press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders and adviser Hope Hicks to the stage to address the crowd.
''The great Hope Hicks. Do you know Hope? She's become very famous,' he said.
Hicks spoke briefly and Trump noted she doesn't like public speaking.
'Hi, how much do we love our president? Are you guys going to vote on Tuesday?,' Hicks said as the crowd cheered and chanted 'Trump.' We love you Iowa. Thank you.'
Trump hugged Sanders who said: 'He's had an amazing four years. As a mom of three young kids, there's nobody I trust more to build their future, and protect our great country in President Donald Trump.'
And he brought Iowa Senators Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst to the stage to speak. Ernst is in a closely-contested re-election race.
Thousands pack in: This was the scene as Donald Trump campaigned at his second stop of the day in Dubuque, Iowa in bitter winds
''The great Hope Hicks. Do you know Hope? She's become very famous,' he said. Hicks spoke briefly and Trump noted she doesn't like public speaking.
Trump hugged Sanders who said: 'He's had an amazing four years. As a mom of three young kids, there's nobody I trust more to build their future, and protect our great country in President Donald Trump.'
President Trump brought daughter Ivanka Trump to stage in Iowa
Local senator: 86-year-old Chuck Grassley took down his mask to be greeted by Donald Trump
Bundled up: Donald Trump wore a scarf under his overcoat as he battled bitter winds to address supporters in Dubuque
Air Force One backdrop: The Trump campaign is hoping that the presence of the executive plane adds to Trump's power of incumbency
President Trump claimed rival Joe Biden wouldn't be able to campaign under such circumstances
Packed in: There was no social distancing and some - but hardly universal - mask-wearing as Trump spoke in Dubuque in Iowa, a state which is unexpectedly a battleground for him and Joe Biden having gone heavily for Trump in 2016
Fist pump: Donald Trump gave his signature clenched fist as supporters cheered him on to the stage at the rally
Showtime: Supporters cheered as Donald Trump climbed the steps to speak to the crowd
On stage: Donald Trump gets read to address the crowd at Dubuque Regional Airport, the second stop of his five-rally swing from Michigan to Florida on Sunday
Wrapped up the campaign: The last Trump stop in Iowa was in chilly conditions - with this couple using a sleeping bag against the cold
Campaign wear: One supporter came dressed apparently in a combination of Halloween and Christmas outfits, with a Trump Santa hat for the cold
Supporters in Iowa were bundled up in hats and masks against the cold
The crowd at the Dubuque Regional Airport lined up in the cold to wait for Trump to speak
Supporters arrive at a campaign rally for President Donald Trump at Dubuque Regional Airport
It is 37 degrees in Dubuque, Iowa, and supporters were bundled up against the cold
Trump faced snow at his first rally of the day when he campaigned in Michigan. In Iowa, he faced another cold day but large crowd, who cheered him on as attacked Biden for his energy and tax policies.
'If Biden gets in you can forget about ethanol,' Trump warned, getting in a mention of one of Iowa's biggest industries.
'Biden has vowed to abolish the oil industry and this would be a death sentence to ethanol,' he added.
The race in Iowa is essentially tied, according to the RealClearPolitics polling average of the state.
The president also complained that the result of the election should be known on election day. In 2016, it was not known until the day after the election and is expected to take even longer this year because so many Americans are voting by mail due to the coronavirus pandemic.
'We should know the result of the election on Nov. 3. The evening of Nov. 3. That's the way it's been and that's the way it should be. What's going on in this country? What's going on?,' he said.
'We have to be careful of cheating,' he said of this year's vote.
More than 91 million mail-in ballots have been requested, according to the Election Project, and over 59 million have been returned.
Trump, who is trailing Biden fundraising, said he could be the 'greatest political fundraiser.'
'I would be the greatest political fundraiser in the history of the world – I could raise a billion in two days. Well give me three days,' he said.
'You could raise a lot of money but you can only air so many commercials,' he added.
Here he is: Donald Trump walks off Air Force One - one of the smaller military versions of a Boeing 757 which the USAF uses for executive travel - for his rally in Dubuque
On his way: Donald Trump walks across the jetway from his plane to address the crowd
Cold climate, warm reception: Supporters photograph and cheer Trump as he walks on stage for his rally
View from the side: Despite the chilly conditions, one man was in a stars and stripes jacket to watch the president
Crowd of thousands: There was no sign of social distancing as supporters packed into the risers at the Dubuque Regional Airport
Faces in the crowd: People who came to Dubuque had to wrap up warm against the bitter wind
Consistent message: Campaign staff hand out signs at every rally to make sure the front rows show the message they want reflected to saupporters
Trump kicked off his five-rally day in snowy Michigan where it was so cold he joked people should wear face masks.'Today you should wear them anyway,' Trump said his remarks.
The president has been reluctant to wear a face covering and his campaign said supporters are free to wear them or not at events.
But several people in Michigan had their face covered with either a scarf or a face mask – including many red 'MAGA' ones. The weather was 41 degrees with an even colder wind chill of 26 degrees.
Snow flakes fell as the president spoke under the cover of a roof. Supporters wrapped themselves in blankets and hopped up and down to keep warm.
'This is a hell of a day. You guys must love Trump,' the president said in one of his many references to the blustery day.
'That wind is coming right into my face,' he said as the cold wind blew through the muddy field where he spoke.As the crowd shouted 'we love you,' he replied back: 'I love you too. If I didn't it wouldn't be standing here because it's freezing.'
Ivanka Trump introduced her father, comparing him to Winston Churchill in her short remarks. 'Winston Churchill said, 'It was the nation that had the lion's heart, I just had the luck to give it the roar,' she said.
'How much does this remind you of our president and this movement?'He gave us roar,' she added.
How's the weather? Donald Trump shows what he thinks of bitter conditions in Washington, MI, at the first rally of his Sunday swing
Bundle up: Donald Trump shivers theatrically at the Michigan Sports Stars Park in Washington as he gets on stage to speak to the audience of his fans
No YMCA: Instead of his usual dance moves, Donald Trump reacted to 26-degree windchill as he came on stage for the rally in Washington, MI
Greeting for the crowd: Trump waves to supporters gathered in bitter conditions including flurries of snow and sleet
Happy to be here: Trump told his supporters that the cold made it worth wearing masks - not that many of them did
Give me shelter: Donald Trump had a break from the weather from above as he spoke in Washington Township to a crowd of supporters
Ridicule: Donald Trump used his speech to pour scorn on Joe Biden, his Democratic rival who has been consistently ahead in the polls, including in Michigan
Praise for her father: Ivanka Trump compared the president to Winston Churchill, the British wartime prime minister, an analogy started by Trump himself
Popular with MAGA: The Trump campaign sees Ivanka as one of the best surrogate for her father but there have been few joint appearances on the campaign trail
The nuns are back: Members of the Dominican Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary from Hartland, MI, were at a Trump rally last week and were back again Sunday. 'Oh look at the sisters. You agree with me. You beautiful sisters,' he said to them. 'Are you cold? God will keep you warm.'
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The president joked about how short a time she spoke for.
'We had the luck of having Ivanka here and I'll tell you it's the shortest introduction she's ever given me and now I understand why,' he said in reference to the weather.
Trump turned most of the sections into his speech into a commentary on the weather – even when he was criticizing his Democratic rivals' immigration policy.
'They want to allow virtually unlimited immigration to our country and unlimited access to our country,' he said of the Biden/Harris ticket.He then joked it was so cold refugees wouldn't want to come.
'It's freezing up here. I want to go back to Syria,' he said, roaring with laughter at his own joke.
The president also spent much of his remarks bragging about his economic record.
'I gave you a lot of auto plants,' he told the crowd. 'The auto business is coming back.'
In fact there has been one major assembly plant announced, by Fiat Chrysler in Detroit, which will open next year, and two smaller facilities which will employ under 450 people each.
He warned with Joe Biden as president: 'You will have a depression.' He warned of higher gas prices and higher taxes.
'Under my leadership our economy is now growing at the fastest rate ever recorded,' Trump claimed even as the economy struggles to recover from the coronavirus pandemic.
But his thoughts always returned to the weather. 'This is a true testament. I love the people of Michigan. It's worth it. It's worth it,' he said.
Before his final campaign swing started - two days, seven states, 10 - rallies, Trump had a special message for Michigan, which is his first stop of the day.
He touted his economic record there after Barack Obama trashed him during campaign stops for Biden in Flint and Detroit on Saturday.
'When I originally became your all time favorite President, the Great State of Michigan was hemorrhaging car companies and jobs. Plants were closing and moving to Mexico, and other places. No new plants for decades. I stopped the moves, & now many plants are and have been built,' Trump wrote on Twitter Sunday morning before he left Washington D.C.
'The place was a mess and would have lost much more business if I hadn't come along. Many new plants are starting. Foreign countries and companies now treat the USA, and Michigan, with respect. Big jobs plans. Please remember this when you go to cast your very important vote!,' he added.
Nuns at the front: This was the crowd behind the Trump-supporting nuns who have now become part of the scene at Michigan rallies. The Catholic Church does not endorse one candidate over another but individual members of the clergy and religious orders are free to express political views
VIP seats: Those at the front of the crowd get fold-down seats to watch the president - not that many people use them
On his way: Donald Trump walked out of a special tent where aides stayed for the speech including Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff
Applause: Donald Trump salutes his fans in Washington, Michigan, as he tells them to get out to vote. He is well behind in the polls in Michigan
See you on the other side: Donald Trump is scheduled to have one more Michigan rally, the last one of his campaign, on Monday night
Crowd: Some of Donald Trump's supporters were wearing masks as they cheered his arrival on stage
Go to the tape: Donald Trump used what has become a staple of his campaign stops - a highlights reel of 'gaffes' by Joe Biden
Fewer masks here: One fan had a cutout Trump face to greet the president at the Michigan rally in Washington Township, in Macomb County, a swing district which backed Trump in 2016
Wrapped up for the cold: Donald Trump's fans were dressed for bitter temperatures as he addressed them in Washington, MI
In a blistering denouncement of his successor on Saturday, Obama criticized Trump's job record to Michigan voters during a stop in the critical battleground state.
He pointed out he and Biden fought for the auto industry – which is huge in Michigan – during the economic recession. He said Trump has lost manufacturing jobs.
'The economic damage inflicted by botching the pandemic response means he'll be the only president since Herbert Hoover, to actually lose jobs,' Obama said of Trump. 'Herbert Hoover. That's a long time ago.'
Biden leads by seven points in Michigan according to the RealClearPolitics average of polls in the state. Trump was in Michigan on Friday while Biden was there with Obama on Saturday.
Trump will end his presidential campaign with a rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan, on Monday night – the same place he ended his successful 2016 run.
Early voting has begun in the state and more than 2.5 million have already cast their ballot, according to the Election Project, which tracks early voting.
The president is fighting hard to win the state and not afraid to butt heads with his political opposition.
He attacked the former Republican governor of Michigan, Rick Snyder, in a tweet late last week after Snyder said he voted for Biden.
'Failed RINO former Governor Rick Snyder of Michigan was a disaster with respect to the Flint Water CATASTROPHE, and a very bad Governor overall. He hurt so many people with his gross incompetence,' Trump wrote Thursday evening.
On Saturday, when Obama and Biden were campaigning in the state and criticizing Trump's record, the president blamed them for the situation in Flint.
He tweeted angrily from Air Force One, saying the notorious water contamination happened 'on their watch.'
In fact the lead poisoning happened when an emergency city manager appointed by Snyder switched the city's water supply to water from Lake Huron, introducing lead into the supply at dangerous levels.
Snyder apologized repeatedly for the crisis.
The president has also battled with the current governor – Democrat Gretchen Whitmer - over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
Meanwhile, new COVID cases and deaths are on the rise in Michigan.
On Saturday, Michigan's 7-day moving average for daily cases was 2,879 - the highest it has ever been. Also on Saturday, Michigan reported a single-day record of new confirmed coronavirus cases: 3,792.
Trump will spend Sunday in Michigan, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida. He'll sleep at his golf club in Doral before Monday's swing to North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Biden will spend Sunday and Monday in Pennsylvania. Trump held four rallies in that state on Saturday. He'll have daughters Ivanka and Tiffany there on Sunday.
Both campaigns are spending most of the final few days of the campaign in the Midwest.
Main attraction: Donald Trump points towards fans on the opposite side of the stage as he gets ready to address the crowd in Michigan Sports Stars Park, in must-win Macomb County which voted twice for Obama than switched to Trump
Guarded: The view from behind Donald Trump as a Secret Service agent guards his dias as he addresses the crowd
Front row fans: Rally organizers encourage those directly behind the president to cover up so he does not appear on camers with people ignoring public safety guidelines
Notmany masks, no social distancing: The audience at the Trump rally ignored state and federal health guidelines as they packed in to the risers for the event
Line up in the sunshine: Trump fans get ready to hear the president in Macomb County, MI
Aggressive display: A popular image of Trump as Rambo was among flags flying in Washington Township's arena's parking lot
Line up for Trump: This was the line to get in to the sports ground for the president's rally, held in bitter conditions
Standing for the anthem: Supporters got to their feet for the anthem with no sign of masks in one section of the crowd. There was no social distancing of any kind
Message: Supporters expressed their skepticism of the mainstream media - in line with the Republican leader's repeated tirades - with what they wore
'It's a little tough out here,' President Donald Trump told reporters when he exited Air Force One in cold, sleeting Michigan
The White House on Sunday morning before President Trump left for his campaign swing
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Trump will begin Sunday in Washington, Michigan, where is trying to replicate his 2016 win when the states there put him in the White House.
Democrats are trying to rebuild their 'blue wall' - a set of Midwest states that were reliably in their corner until Trump won them four years ago.
The Trump victory there left the party shocked and stunned - a situation they do not want to revisit this year.
Those states include Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Trump won them by a point or two, leaving Democrats hopeful that Biden - long a champion of the blue-collar worker - can win them back.
Biden brought former President Barack Obama to him in Michigan on Saturday where the two made their first joint campaign appearance together with rallies in Flint and Detroit.
'Guess what Mr President, I'm coming for you,' Biden said to cheers from the crowd in Detroit.
Obama made it clear what was at stake on November 3.
'Three days Detroit. Three days until the most important election of our lifetimes,' he said. 'And that includes mine, which was pretty important.'
Trump will be back in Michigan for two rallies on Monday. Ivanka Trump will also campaign there on Monday.
After his Michigan stop on Sunday, Trump moves to Iowa - a state he won by 10 points in 2016 and wants to keep in his corner.
From there he'll bounce to Hickory, North Carolina, before moving down to Rome, Georgia and ending the night in Miami.
Mary Trump warned Sunday that if her uncle, President Donald Trump – who she called 'vile' – is reelected on Tuesday, the U.S. could be at risk of becoming an 'authoritarian state.'
According to a 'panel of experts' the president's niece said she put together last week, 'The message is... Donald has done everything in his power to dismantle every institution that comprises the U.S.'
'We're looking at an authoritarian state if we allow him to continue unimpeded,' she told MSNBC's Joy Reid during an interview on 'AM Joy' Sunday morning.
At the same time Mary joined Reid for an interview Sunday, just two days before Election Day, Trump was arriving at his first of five rallies on Sunday in snowy Michigan.
Mary Trump warned of an 'authoritarian state' in the U.S. if her uncle, President Donald Trump, is reelected on Tuesday
At the same time Mary made these comments, Trump was arriving in Michigan for a rally
'As if my blood pressure weren't high enough,' Mary said. 'He is vile. He is actively calling on American citizens to commit violence against other American citizens simply for voicing their opinions.'
'This is so dangerous,' she added. 'He is doing the same thing with his armed supporters to go watch the polls. And we know which neighborhoods he's sending these people to. So, it can't be clearer what he is doing. Please understand that he will allow violence to be committed in his name in order to take this election because he knows he can't win it legitimately.'
Trump has called on his supporters to survey polling locations as he warns Democrats are trying to steal the election.
White House slams Dr. Fauci for 'playing politics' after he said he has 'real problems' with Trump's favored Dr. Atlas who 'doesn't know what he is talking about' - and warning the nation is 'in for a whole lot of hurt'
The White House is said to be irked by the country's leading infectious-disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci having given a wide-ranging interview in which he 'appears to play politics' on the coronavirus outbreak just days before the general election.
Despite having not been part of any recent White House press conferences on the pandemic for many months nor having spoken to President Trump directly since the start of October, the doctor has laid bare his frustrations with how the current administration is dealing with the disease.
The president now favors hearing from a doctor with a different point of view - Dr. Scott Atlas.
'We're in for a whole lot of hurt. It's not a good situation,' Fauci said. 'All the stars are aligned in the wrong place as you go into the fall and winter season, with people congregating at home indoors. You could not possibly be positioned more poorly.'
Fauci noted in the interview with the Washington Post that Joe Biden's campaign 'is taking it seriously from a public health perspective', whereas Trump is 'looking at it from a different perspective. Namely that of the economy and reopening the country.'
The country's leading infectious-disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci has given a wide-ranging interview to the Washington Post on the coronavirus response
President Trump has repeated asserted that the country is 'rounding the turn' on the virus but Fauci disagrees saying the country may soon surpass 100,000 new coronavirus cases a day in what is likely to be a long and potentially deadly winter.
On Friday, 98,000 new infections were recorded across the country with 1,000 deaths a day reported on both Wednesday and Thursday. More than 230,000 have died since the start of the pandemic
Infections are currently climbing in 42 states while the president is spending the closing days of his re-election campaign criticizing public officials and medical professionals who are trying to beat it back.
Trump falsely said doctors earn more money when their patients die of the disease, building on his past criticism of medical experts such as Fauci.
At one point, Dr. Fauci was the face of the coronavirus response task force team who would host daily briefings on the outbreak.
He has since described the response as cases surge as 'disjointed', with the White House solely focussed on getting a vaccine as quickly as possible, despite it not necessarily being the 'silver bullet' that completely ends the pandemic.
Fauci revealed to the Post the coronavirus task force meets far less frequently now and has a more limited influence on the president's decisions as he becomes more focused on reopening the country.
'Right now, the public health aspect of the task force has diminished greatly,' he said.
Fauci has described the response to the coronavirus as cases surge as 'disjointed'
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At one point during the Post interview, Fauci checked himself and said that he needed to exercise caution in how he was speaking else he could be blocked conducting interviews in the future.
'The last time I spoke to the president was not about any policy; it was when he was recovering in Walter Reed, he called me up,' Fauci said while revealing that the president has a new favorite - Scott Atlas.
Atlas, a neuroradiologist, is now Trump's favored adviser on the pandemic because he offered guidance that more closely align with Trump's own views which is to reopen the country and let the virus spread among young healthy people.
It is not something that Fauci can agree on.
'I have real problems with that guy,' Fauci said. 'He's a smart guy who's talking about things that I believe he doesn't have any real insight or knowledge or experience in. He keeps talking about things that when you dissect it out and parse it out, it doesn't make any sense.'
There is clearly no love lost between Fauci and Atlas either. On Saturday night Atlas posted a tweet mocking Fauci taking aim at him for giving an interview to the Post.
'#Insecurity #EmbarrassingHimself #Exposed #CantThrowABall #NoTimeForPolitics,' he tweeted.
There is clearly no love lost between Fauci and Atlas either. On Saturday night Atlas posted a tweet mocking Fauci taking aim at him for giving an interview to the Post
Fauci noted that he has a lot of respect for chief of staff Mark Meadows who was direct and forthright in his answers who said on CNN last weekend that the administration was not going to control the pandemic.
'I tip my hat to him for admitting the strategy,' he said. 'He is straightforward in telling you what's on his mind. I commend him for that.'
White House spokesman Judd Deere did not take kindly to any of Fauci's remarks to the Post.
'Fauci 'knows the risks from the coronavirus today are dramatically lower than they were only a few months ago,' Deere said.
'It's unacceptable and breaking with all norms for Dr. Fauci, a senior member of the President's Coronavirus Task Force and someone who has praised President Trump's actions throughout this pandemic, to choose three days before an election to play politics,' he continued.
'As a member of the Task Force, Dr. Fauci has a duty to express concerns or push for a change in strategy, but he's not done that, instead choosing to criticize the President in the media and make his political leanings known by praising the President's opponent — exactly what the American people have come to expect from The Swamp.'
The president has recently taken to mocking Fauci and at a recent rally essentially called him an idiot.
'People are tired of hearing Fauci and these idiots, all these idiots who got it wrong,' Trump said as he recounted how the doctor one said face masks were not necessary before flipping on the issue.
Nevertheless, the White House does not seem to want to make any spat with Fauci public given his overall popularity.
However, the doctor is not revered among Trump supporters and Fauci has also told how he has experienced a rise in harassment and threats from members of the public.
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A low point between Fauci and Trump was reached last month after the Trump campaign appeared to take the doctor's works out of context for a political advert that appeared to show him praising the president's response to the pandemic.
The Trump campaign used his image without his permission and twisted his words to make it seem like he was endorsing the president.
'Together we rose to meet the challenge, protecting our seniors, getting them life-saving drugs in record time, sparing no expense. President Trump tackled the virus head on, as leaders should.' Fauci is then shown saying: 'I can't imagine that anybody could be doing more,' creating the impression he is referring to Trump.
Fauci said his words were taken out of context from a statement he made in March.
'In my nearly five decades of public service, I have never publicly endorsed any political candidate,' he said in a statement.
'The comments attributed to me without my permission in the GOP campaign ad were taken out of context from a broad statement I made months ago about the efforts of federal public health officials.'
The 79-year-old doctor has frequently had to walk a fine line in attempting to clarify - or correct - the president's often incautious assertions about the disease or the treatments and vaccines being developed against Covid-19.
Fauci has at times aroused Trump's ire, as when the president in April retweeted a message containing the hashtag #FireFauci - before publicly insisting the doctor was doing a great job.
Overall, the anonymous sources have told the Post that the White House is essentially overwhelmed by the pandemic and feel completely helpless as they wrestle with the complete inability to curb its spread while also attempting see the economy bounce back, all the while promoting the president's re-election.
'We need to plan now for how we turn the corner in 2021, and one thing we should be doing is laying the foundation to get public schools reopened in the late winter or early spring,' said Trump's former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, Scott Gottlieb. 'If we don't plan now, we'll lose the opportunity to prioritize opening what should be most important to us, just as we lost that chance in the fall because we didn't plan appropriately this summer.'
Fauci's warnings on how the virus will proceed have been blunt despite Trump continuing to hold maskless rallies and insisting that life is returning to normal.
The 79-year-old doctor has frequently had to walk a fine line in attempting to clarify - or correct - the president's often incautious assertions about the disease or its treatments
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Trump told reporters he was not concerned that supporters who flock to his events might contract the virus, even though he, his family and many White House staffers have battled the disease in recent weeks.
The president criticized Democratic officials in Minnesota for enforcing social-distancing rules that limited his rally to 250 people. 'It's a small thing, but a horrible thing,' he said.
No longer speaking to the president daily, Fauci believes it is his duty to conduct as many interviews as possible with local media in cities across the nation.
'The thing we can do is to try to get the message out,' Fauci said.
'All of a sudden, they didn't like what the message was because it wasn't what they wanted to do anymore,' Fauci explains. 'They needed to have a medical message that was essentially consistent with what they were saying.
'And one of the ways to say the outbreak is over is to say it's really irrelevant because it doesn't make any difference. All you need to do is prevent people from dying and protect people in places like the nursing homes. The only medical person who sees the president on a regular basis is Scott Atlas.'
'He insists he's not somebody who's pushing for herd immunity,' Fauci says of Atlas. 'He says, 'That's not what I mean.' everything he says — when you put them together and stitch them together — everything is geared toward the concept of 'it doesn't make any difference if people get infected. It's a waste of time. Masks don't work. Who cares,' and the only thing you need to do is protect the vulnerable, like people in the nursing homes,' Fauci said.
Fauci said that one major concern is that many who contract the virus often suffer from long term health problems.
'The idea of this false narrative that if you don't die, everything is hunky dory is just not the case,' he said. 'But to say, 'Let people get infected, it doesn't matter, just make sure people don't die' — to me as a person who's been practicing medicine for 50 years, it doesn't make any sense at all.'
'Even though we're getting challenged with more cases, the medical system is much better prepared to take care of seriously ill people, so that's the reason why I think the surge of cases is going to be counterbalanced by better experience,' Fauci said to the Post.
Fauci expressed concern over the possible surge that is likely to come this winter that not all areas of the country will be able to handle - especially in Midwestern and Western states who have a limited number of intensive care beds and nurses.
'It's much more about some of the states like Utah, Nevada, South Dakota, North Dakota, where … they never had a pretty good reserve of intensive care beds and things like that. I hope they'll be okay, but it's still a risk that, as you get more surging, they're going to run out of capacity,' Fauci said.